Saw (2004)

Saw (Wan 2004)

As an epilogue to our possession and haunting mini-series we return to the film that first established James Wan and Leigh Whannell within the horror genre: Saw. Saw is one of a few films that shifted the entire horror genre. It aslo established both Wan and Whannell as members of the “Splat Pack.” Given the very conservative ideological messaging of The Conjuring and the Insidious films, we felt compelled to revisit Saw to see if there were similar trappings.

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Saw (Wan 2004) – please watch the film before listening!
Insidious (Wan 2013)
Insidious 2 (Wan XXXX)
The Conjuring (Wan 2013)

TOPIC INDEX – (Hooper 1982) (times are approximate) 

0:35 – Introductions
5:30 – Movie discussion begins
5:30 – some brief Saw history, ours and the film’s
6:30 – the Saw short film
11:30 – Is the race and gender character divide intentional?
12:45 – the Ali trope – a woman reduced to a prop for a man character’s story
20:45 – class
23:00 – what are the fears that produced this film
26:10 – trust
32:30 – inspirations for the film
36:30 – conservative ideology
40:30 – it gets better?
48:30 – ideology and privilege
54:30 – improving the film
1:02:20 – flaws of the chosen sins
1:10:50 – into the individual vs structural weeds we go
1:28:20 – out of the weeds again; from Saw to We Wept Without Tears and Human Smoke
1:32:20 – into the sonderkommando weeds
1:35:20 – medicine and police
1:37:40 – Living Downstream by Sandra Steingraber
1:40:40 – fears of Saw
1:49:50 – Grading the film using the Collective Nightmares Evolving Rubric of Social Responsibility

Related Episodes
The Conjuring (Wan 2013)
Insidious (Wan 2010)
Insidious Chapter 2 (Wan 2016)
The Possession (Bornedal 2012)
Last House on the Left (Craven 1972)


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Episode 85

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